Empathy, Listening, and Human Centricity

Last Updated December 30th, 2021

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We’re all human beings. And whether we find ourselves in the role of the customer or the employee, we want to be treated as such. We want to be seen, listened to, and understood. At the same time, business, as we know it, has shifted. It’s moved from a product economy to a service economy to an experience economy.

So what does all of this tell us? People matter. Experience matters.

The core values of any organization should reflect both this shift to an experience economy and the need for people to be treated like human beings. And it’s this type of human centricity that empowers employees (through the implementation of a remarkable, human-centered EX) to create a memorable and exceptional CX. One that builds trust, brand loyalty, and prevents your business from being left behind.

Today’s guest is Howard Brown. Howard is the Founder and CEO at Revenue.io. Formerly branded RingDNA, Revenue.io is a platform that supports organizations with a variety of sales tools, insights, and real-time guidance to contextualize the buying journey and optimize the entire revenue process. When it comes to EX and CX, Howard feels strongly that brands can’t call themselves human-centric until they fully understand the relationship between listening and empathy.

With both a master’s degree and a doctorate in clinical psychology, Howard has been featured on Bloomberg TV, FOX Business, in Forbes, Entrepreneur Magazine, and The Wall Street Journal to discuss sales, entrepreneurship, AI, and the human experience. Today he talks with me about the fundamental need to become students of life and people. He also shares his thoughts on how to prioritize connecting with others and how listening to understand is foundational to genuine empathy and to the human experience.

Howard and I also discussed:

How to make human-centricity your core value
What the relationship between CX and EX is
How listening and empathy create better brand experiences
Why AI should stand for augmented intelligence
What it was like to navigate Revenue.io’s recent rebrand



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Video Highlights: Empathy, Listening, and Human Centricity

Check out the top five video highlights from the discussion with Howard Brown


1. Customer Experience and Human Centricity



2. Collapsing Silos, Retaining Revenue, Meeting Moments



3. Evolution of RingDNA to Revenue.io



4. Empathy, Discovery, and Listening



5. Rebranding: A Full Reset, Not Just a Name Change


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Ethan Beute | About The Author

Chief Evangelist at BombBomb, host of The Customer Experience Podcast, and Wall Street Journal bestselling co-author of Human-Centered Communication and Rehumanize Your Business, Ethan Beute collects and tells stories of clearer communication, human connection, and higher conversion through simple, personal video messages. BA: University of Michigan. MBA: University of Colorado-Colorado Springs.

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